If any kind Egyptologists/Copticologists (?) would be willing to take a look at a section on Egyptian names Iโve recently put together for a book, then please let me know.
02.08.2025 14:36 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0@jamesbejon.bsky.social
If any kind Egyptologists/Copticologists (?) would be willing to take a look at a section on Egyptian names Iโve recently put together for a book, then please let me know.
02.08.2025 14:36 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0Very nice indeed!
Some vague suggestions on this page:
Maybe ืฆึถืึฐืฆึฐืึดืื or something like that?
Either way, an extra shva is needed in ืฆึดืืฆึดืืึดืื.
And ืึตืื rather than ืึถืื.
Perhaps โtimbrels ofโ would be ืชึผึปืคึผึตื.
And ืึถืขึฑืึธื for ืึถืขึถืึธื?
Not quite top of the worldโs problems at the moment, but why do some text file handlers have the option โMerge delimiters?โ, and why would it be set to TRUE by default? When would this ever be desirable behaviour?
07.08.2025 08:57 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0Interestingโthanks!
Something like *สarbaสatum > *สerbeสtum > สerbettum?
Keen to know if folk out there are aware of cases of CโvสCโ โ CโvCโCโ?
Is this a common/known development?
Too much.
03.08.2025 14:39 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0Separate thought: I get the impression that in Akkadian aแธซ normally means an actual brotherโโGod has given the brotherโ, โHe has replaced the brotherโ, etc. I wonder if thatโs right, and if so, how the difference came about.
02.08.2025 18:38 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0It wasnโt. They seem too well attested throughout West Semitic (since early times) to have an Egyptian origin. But I could easily imagine that many of the Israelite ones were re-analysed Egyptian names, particularly in cases where their semantics seem awkward.
02.08.2025 18:36 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0If any kind Egyptologists/Copticologists (?) would be willing to take a look at a section on Egyptian names Iโve recently put together for a book, then please let me know.
02.08.2025 14:36 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0Looking at a bit of Ugaritic, it has just occurred to me that BHL = โto disinheritโ fits the use of ืืืณืณื in Psalm 2 pretty well.
01.08.2025 17:10 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0Neat.
No thatโs perfectโEgyptian *[ลซ] โ *[ฤซ]/*[ฤ] is a regular sound change, thought to have taken place some time between the 13th and 8th century BC.
Ah I see. I think that all our Ugaritic literature is thought to have been written in a pretty narrow window and is thus treated as one big blob as far as time-depth goes.
01.08.2025 17:38 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0Maybe Iโve misunderstood you. Iโd take him to take it for granted that แบฃxy is older since the word goes back to Proto-Semitic *[สaแธซ].
01.08.2025 17:26 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0Looking at a bit of Ugaritic, it has just occurred to me that BHL = โto disinheritโ fits the use of ืืืณืณื in Psalm 2 pretty well.
01.08.2025 17:10 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0Re โbrotherโ:
01.08.2025 16:59 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0Yes. Very Najdi-like.
Huehnergard 2008 on Ugaritic Vocabulary p. 272 has good stuff on this.
Do we? Nice!
01.08.2025 16:25 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0I suspect the ืื here is Egyptian ๊ฃแธซ = โbeneficial/glorious/etc.โ
Compare ืึฒืึดืืืึนืช with ๊ฃแธซ-mw.t:
pnm.uni-mainz.de/name/7329
Lots of good info on this in โThe Scribal Culture of Ugaritโ by Robert Hawley, Dennis Pardee, and Carole Roche-Hawley.
01.08.2025 13:54 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0Right!
01.08.2025 13:19 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0I have, however, corresponded with Hekhmat Dirbas a bit, and have enjoyed the fact heโs written about lion names.
01.08.2025 11:38 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0Noโa friend of a friend.
01.08.2025 11:36 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0Currently working on a book about name semantics.
It strikes me as a missed opportunity that, when Joshua started doing his PhD with John Huehnergard, I didnโt make any comments about the Fox being in the Henhouse.
Neatโthank you!
31.07.2025 12:00 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0Interestingโthanks!
31.07.2025 10:56 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0Interestingโplease do.
So youโre saying itโs not effectively any different from ืึทึซืจึฐืฆึธื ,ื ึถึซืึฐืึผึธื, etc.
1/2. Observation.
The vocalisation of ืึนืึถื = โtentโ is odd given the Ugaritic aอhl = โtentโ and the Classical Arabic ahl = โhouseholdโ.
And, as a friend pointed out to me the other day, the MT allows the accent of ืึธืึนึืึฑืึธื (โtentwardsโ) to fall on an antepenult, which is also odd (unprecedented?).
No, I was joking, but am tempted to do it now.
31.07.2025 08:59 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0Sorry about thatโhope I didnโt come across as overly familiar.
31.07.2025 08:47 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0Hypothesis. While *สahl became *สฤl and then *สลl (via the Canaanite Shift), โtentโ and โtentwardsโ were still written ืืื and ืืืื. The orthographies of these words were then read back into their pronunciations, but the stress of ืืืื remained initial, hence ืึนืึถื and ืึธืึนึืึฑืึธื?
31.07.2025 07:42 โ ๐ 2 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0