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If any kind Egyptologists/Copticologists (?) would be willing to take a look at a section on Egyptian names Iโ€™ve recently put together for a book, then please let me know.

02.08.2025 14:36 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Very nice indeed!
Some vague suggestions on this page:
Maybe ืฆึถืœึฐืฆึฐืœึดื™ื or something like that?
Either way, an extra shva is needed in ืฆึดืœืฆึดื™ืœึดื™ื.
And ืึตื™ืŸ rather than ืึถื™ืŸ.
Perhaps โ€˜timbrels ofโ€™ would be ืชึผึปืคึผึตื™.
And ืึถืขึฑื–ึธื‘ for ืึถืขึถื–ึธื‘?

07.08.2025 21:47 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Not quite top of the worldโ€™s problems at the moment, but why do some text file handlers have the option โ€˜Merge delimiters?โ€™, and why would it be set to TRUE by default? When would this ever be desirable behaviour?

07.08.2025 08:57 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Interestingโ€”thanks!

Something like *ส”arbaส•atum > *ส”erbeส”tum > ส”erbettum?

05.08.2025 18:18 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Keen to know if folk out there are aware of cases of Cโ‚vส”Cโ‚‚ โ‡’ Cโ‚vCโ‚‚Cโ‚‚?

Is this a common/known development?

05.08.2025 17:37 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 3    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 3    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Too much.

03.08.2025 14:39 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Separate thought: I get the impression that in Akkadian aแธซ normally means an actual brotherโ€”โ€˜God has given the brotherโ€™, โ€˜He has replaced the brotherโ€™, etc. I wonder if thatโ€™s right, and if so, how the difference came about.

02.08.2025 18:38 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

It wasnโ€™t. They seem too well attested throughout West Semitic (since early times) to have an Egyptian origin. But I could easily imagine that many of the Israelite ones were re-analysed Egyptian names, particularly in cases where their semantics seem awkward.

02.08.2025 18:36 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

If any kind Egyptologists/Copticologists (?) would be willing to take a look at a section on Egyptian names Iโ€™ve recently put together for a book, then please let me know.

02.08.2025 14:36 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0
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Looking at a bit of Ugaritic, it has just occurred to me that BHL = โ€˜to disinheritโ€™ fits the use of ื‘ื”ืณืณืœ in Psalm 2 pretty well.

01.08.2025 17:10 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Neat.

No thatโ€™s perfectโ€”Egyptian *[ลซ] โ‡’ *[ฤซ]/*[ฤ“] is a regular sound change, thought to have taken place some time between the 13th and 8th century BC.

01.08.2025 20:31 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Ah I see. I think that all our Ugaritic literature is thought to have been written in a pretty narrow window and is thus treated as one big blob as far as time-depth goes.

01.08.2025 17:38 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Maybe Iโ€™ve misunderstood you. Iโ€™d take him to take it for granted that แบฃxy is older since the word goes back to Proto-Semitic *[ส”aแธซ].

01.08.2025 17:26 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0
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Looking at a bit of Ugaritic, it has just occurred to me that BHL = โ€˜to disinheritโ€™ fits the use of ื‘ื”ืณืณืœ in Psalm 2 pretty well.

01.08.2025 17:10 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0
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Re โ€˜brotherโ€˜:

01.08.2025 16:59 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0
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Yes. Very Najdi-like.

Huehnergard 2008 on Ugaritic Vocabulary p. 272 has good stuff on this.

01.08.2025 16:59 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Do we? Nice!

01.08.2025 16:25 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0
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๊œฃแธซ-mw.t | Persons and Names of the Middle Kingdom An online database of ancient Egyptian personal names, titles, and persons from the Middle Kingdom.

I suspect the ืื— here is Egyptian ๊œฃแธซ = โ€˜beneficial/glorious/etc.โ€™

Compare ืึฒื—ึดื™ืžื•ึนืช with ๊œฃแธซ-mw.t:

pnm.uni-mainz.de/name/7329

01.08.2025 13:57 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 4    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 2    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Lots of good info on this in โ€˜The Scribal Culture of Ugaritโ€™ by Robert Hawley, Dennis Pardee, and Carole Roche-Hawley.

01.08.2025 13:54 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Right!

01.08.2025 13:19 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

I have, however, corresponded with Hekhmat Dirbas a bit, and have enjoyed the fact heโ€™s written about lion names.

01.08.2025 11:38 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Noโ€”a friend of a friend.

01.08.2025 11:36 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Currently working on a book about name semantics.

It strikes me as a missed opportunity that, when Joshua started doing his PhD with John Huehnergard, I didnโ€™t make any comments about the Fox being in the Henhouse.

01.08.2025 09:25 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 5    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Neatโ€”thank you!

31.07.2025 12:00 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Interestingโ€”thanks!

31.07.2025 10:56 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 0    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Interestingโ€”please do.

So youโ€™re saying itโ€™s not effectively any different from ืึทึซืจึฐืฆึธื” ,ื ึถึซื’ึฐื‘ึผึธื”, etc.

31.07.2025 09:27 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 2    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

1/2. Observation.

The vocalisation of ืึนื”ึถืœ = โ€˜tentโ€™ is odd given the Ugaritic aอ—hl = โ€˜tentโ€™ and the Classical Arabic ahl = โ€˜householdโ€™.

And, as a friend pointed out to me the other day, the MT allows the accent of ื”ึธืึนึ–ื”ึฑืœึธื” (โ€˜tentwardsโ€™) to fall on an antepenult, which is also odd (unprecedented?).

31.07.2025 07:42 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 1    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 3    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

No, I was joking, but am tempted to do it now.

31.07.2025 08:59 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 0    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Sorry about thatโ€”hope I didnโ€™t come across as overly familiar.

31.07.2025 08:47 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 1    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

Hypothesis. While *ส”ahl became *ส”ฤl and then *ส”ลl (via the Canaanite Shift), โ€˜tentโ€™ and โ€˜tentwardsโ€™ were still written ืื”ืœ and ืื”ืœื. The orthographies of these words were then read back into their pronunciations, but the stress of ืื”ืœื remained initial, hence ืึนื”ึถืœ and ื”ึธืึนึ–ื”ึฑืœึธื”?

31.07.2025 07:42 โ€” ๐Ÿ‘ 2    ๐Ÿ” 0    ๐Ÿ’ฌ 1    ๐Ÿ“Œ 0

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