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Oliver Haythorne

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MSc Economic & Social History @ New College, Oxford; economics, political economy, Holy Roman history, mathematical ecology, other things that interest me

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Plato's Cave allegory, illustrated. the shadows on the cave wall are captioned "increasingly insane and extreme positions", the prisoners labeled "internet users", the figures holding the shadow's shapes labeled "algorithms", the fire labeled "random internet users expressing their idiosyncratic beliefs". the space above the cave is labeled "literally just outside" and the philosopher freed from the chains of the physical world labeled "guy who logs off"

Plato's Cave allegory, illustrated. the shadows on the cave wall are captioned "increasingly insane and extreme positions", the prisoners labeled "internet users", the figures holding the shadow's shapes labeled "algorithms", the fire labeled "random internet users expressing their idiosyncratic beliefs". the space above the cave is labeled "literally just outside" and the philosopher freed from the chains of the physical world labeled "guy who logs off"

from "Classical Studies memes for Hellenistic teens" on FB

10.06.2025 19:57 β€” πŸ‘ 6842    πŸ” 1252    πŸ’¬ 74    πŸ“Œ 68

Thank you! This is cool stuff.

21.05.2025 19:00 β€” πŸ‘ 2    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0
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Posting Through It: Sir Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak’s Social Media Strategy on Twitter in the 2024 General Election Oliver Haythorne analyses Starmer and Sunak's attempts at self-fashioning via Twitter before the 2024 election, and why they failed.

Social media is predominantly a world of illusion πŸͺ„ ✨ But our latest analysis of Starmer and Sunak’s (largely) unsuccessful attempts to self-fashion via Twitter in the run up to the 2024 election πŸ—³οΈ finds that no filter can manufacture charisma...

tinyurl.com/5y6p2mvy

#twitter #socialmediastrategy

09.04.2025 05:44 β€” πŸ‘ 3    πŸ” 1    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

my only question about people who get on X or tiktok and post that gpt helped them solve the reimann hypothesis is whether they are in their heart of hearts aware that they have no idea what's going on at any level, or if they're like true believers in their own shit

25.02.2025 13:46 β€” πŸ‘ 51    πŸ” 3    πŸ’¬ 5    πŸ“Œ 0

How Does Culture Impact Economic Growth?
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22.02.2025 14:35 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0
Classicism and Modern Growth: The Shadow of the Sages | The Journal of Economic History | Cambridge Core Classicism and Modern Growth: The Shadow of the Sages - Volume 84 Issue 2

As ever, a link to the paper:

Classicism and Modern Growth: The Shadow of the Sages:
www.cambridge.org/core/journal...

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22.02.2025 14:34 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

Summing up:

1) Culture matters economically
2) In Qing China, higher densities of sage temples were associated with lower rates of firm foundations in the 19th and 20th centuries
3) This holds when using sage birthplaces instead
4) This might be persistently impactful on cultural dynamism

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22.02.2025 14:34 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

I'm not sure about that last set of results. I think it's more likely that the low rates of intellectual dynamism in areas that also had low rates of firm foundation had more to do with poverty and a lack of employment than culture by that point.

Some of his controls are also questionable.

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22.02.2025 14:34 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
A table of results showing what is described

A table of results showing what is described

Ma argues that this association between traditionalism and low economic growth continues to hold today.

He finds that sage temples and birthplaces are also associated with low rates of journal publications and intellectual activity in modern history, perhaps showing cultural backwardness.

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22.02.2025 14:33 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
A map showing the distribution of sage birthplaces and their temples

A map showing the distribution of sage birthplaces and their temples

A table of results showing what is described

A table of results showing what is described

However, it's possible that there's reverse causation.

As such, Ma looked at the link between firm foundations and the birthplaces of the sages, centuries or millennia earlier. That should be unrelated with characteristics of the area later when the shrines were built. The association holds.

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22.02.2025 14:32 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
A graph of results showing what is described

A graph of results showing what is described

A table of results showing what is described

A table of results showing what is described

He found initially that there was a negative association between the density of sage temples in an area and the rate of business foundations later in the 19th and 20th centuries.

This might show that areas which worshipped ancient wisdom were less likely to take up on modern economic ideas.

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22.02.2025 14:31 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

He put together a pretty detailed dataset of all the "sage temples" across China in the Qing period, plus a few other types of temples and some important socioeconomic correlates. This work alone is very valuable! It also allows him to track differences across space in China over a long period.

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22.02.2025 14:29 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
A map of sage temples against industrial firms

A map of sage temples against industrial firms

Ma Chicheng set out to investigate this in a recent paper in the Journal of Economic History.

He suggested that we might be able to use temples to the "sages", the founts of ancient knowledge, as proxies for more traditional forms of culture in Qing Chinese history.

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22.02.2025 14:29 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

Economists are extremely interested in the question of culture for a few reasons.

It might help explain some puzzling discrepancies in growth rates between areas that are similar in all other observable respects.

It's also important for how economists theorize growth and change generally.

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22.02.2025 14:29 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
Temple to Confucius/Kong Fuzi in Qufu

Temple to Confucius/Kong Fuzi in Qufu

THREAD: How Does Culture Impact Economic Growth?

Economists are not famous for their discussions of culture and religion. However, increasingly they have come to recognize that culture might play a role in influencing long-term economic growth.

China might provide an interesting case study.

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22.02.2025 14:28 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 1
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The title page of Alexander Pope’s collected works, 1780 edition, volume IV

The title page of Alexander Pope’s collected works, 1780 edition, volume IV

Unbelievably excited to own this now…

20.02.2025 16:01 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

What Do Cross-Gender Social Networks Look Like Across the World?
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17.02.2025 15:00 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

A link to this exciting new paper:

Cross-Gender Social Ties Around the World:
www.nber.org/papers/w33480

9/9

17.02.2025 15:00 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

To sum up:

1) Facebook friending data can be used to construct the Cross-Gender Friending Ratio
2) The CGFR varies across regions of the world
3) It correlates strongly with feminist attitudes and female labour force participation
4) In the US, it is somewhat demographically polarized

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17.02.2025 14:59 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

This is a very exciting new measure, and I'm sure it'll be used for lots of great research. The authors' regression results are preliminary, as they admit.

It's worth saying there may be selection biases: in very poor areas, only wealthier or better-educated people may have Facebook access.

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17.02.2025 14:59 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
A table of results showing what is described

A table of results showing what is described

Looking more specifically at the US, there are some interesting socioeconomic and demographic correlations.

For example, it comes out that white people and rich people tend to have lower Cross-Gender Friending Ratios than poor, black, or Hispanic people. Religion's role is a bit more ambiguous.

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17.02.2025 14:59 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
A graph of results showing what is described

A graph of results showing what is described

A table of results showing what is described

A table of results showing what is described

The authors also did a few correlational analyses. These aren't super rigorous, but they're indicative.

For instance, having a higher Cross-Gender Friending Ratio usually means a country is more accepting of basic feminist ideas, and is likely to have higher female labour force participation.

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17.02.2025 14:58 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
A pair of maps showing what is described

A pair of maps showing what is described

A set of four maps showing what is described, plus the scale

A set of four maps showing what is described, plus the scale

Looking broadly across the globe, interesting patterns appear.

Rates are lowest in traditionally Muslim areas like the Middle East and north Africa, and highest in Latin America and parts of Sub-Saharan Africa. Interestingly, Europe and the US are somewhere in the middle - perhaps surprisingly!

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17.02.2025 14:57 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

In essence, they construct a measure based on Facebook friendships.

They use over a trillion friendship relations based on around 1.8 billion users to construct a measure, the Cross-Gender Friending Ratio: the ratio of female friends in men's networks to female friends in women's networks.

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17.02.2025 14:55 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

A hot-off-the-press NBER Working Paper released today looks to answer this question.

It's important to social scientists, and has been for a very long time, because gross-gender social networks often control for social attitudes towards gender. Though they're important, measuring them is hard.

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17.02.2025 14:55 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0
An image of a Facebook network, visualized as a graph

An image of a Facebook network, visualized as a graph

THREAD: What Do Cross-Gender Social Networks Look Like Across the World?

Gender often defines or colours our social networks and interactions. We might be more or less likely to make friends with someone because of their gender.

How does this look on the global scale, and how do we measure it?

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17.02.2025 14:55 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 1

How Much Do We Really Want Equality?
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14.02.2025 13:55 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

As ever, the paper under discussion:

Measuring Preferences for Income Equality and Income Mobility:
direct.mit.edu/rest/article...

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14.02.2025 13:55 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 0    πŸ“Œ 0

So, to sum up:

1) On average, people would sacrifice c. $2,750 of average income to raise the income of the bottom 10%
2) They would only sacrifice c. $1,200 to raise the bottom 20%'s income mobility
3) Ideology shapes (or is shaped by) people's preferences on inequality

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14.02.2025 13:54 β€” πŸ‘ 0    πŸ” 0    πŸ’¬ 1    πŸ“Œ 0

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