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Good deal. When is your next town hall though?

I'm not generally a conspiracy theories, but it sure is interesting timing that now the tax cuts and social program cuts passed, the wolves are circling. I think they've always despised him and are ready for him to go, they don't care about his cult anymore and never likes it

I have long stated that I do not believe that adding to the death count of innocent victims to this war is constructive to its end. That is a simple and clear difference of opinion that has long been established.'

'Marjorie Taylor Greene’s amendment does nothing to cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow of US munitions being used in Gaza. Of course I voted against it.

What it does do is cut off defensive Iron Dome capacities while allowing the actual bombs killing Palestinians to continue.

'Im not going to take one step forward today, even though this is the only day I can take a step. Instead, I'm going to wait for a day I can take TEN steps, all at once'

I already gave you the quote where she says that she is talking about the amendment. Like, first couple replies, dude.

Okay. I'm going to repeat myself one more time, and then I'm done.

That's fair.

She's not fucking gaslighting you, she is just in a different field.

I'm sick of this moralizing absolute bullshit and as you said, there's lots of lives on the line.

You take the best you can get, when you can get it, instead of fucking swallowing fascist propaganda that encourages you to wait for perfection. That's representative democracy in action.

So if you'd rather get a fucking moral reach around from fascists to encourage you to sit down for the people who are ACTUALLY FIGHTING FASCISM, instead of taking the best you can get when you can get it and working from there, then well done, mate. Id moderate my tone and be more respectful, but,

world. Nice fucking going, you maintained your moral superiority.

Politics is the art of FUCKING COMPROMISE, including on horrific stakes. They're always horrific stakes, and it's always the less bad option, because you can't GET to the national stage without support of entrenched interests.

y'all voted your conscience, and ended up with DOMESTIC concentration camps and an escalation of war, along with an entrenchment of authoritarian mobsters in the US government and a possible end to even a semblance of representative democracy in the most powerful military and economic machine in the

Yes, that's the rub, isn't it? Because she was as far away from supporting Israel as any politician since WW2 has been, but also had to play the game of politics in order to maintain support from her financial support, the military complex, and her traditional voting base. So, congratulations,

glass Palestine and build a resort on the ashes

This is why absolute movements are prone to being misdirected

Trump is worse for Palestine than Harris in almost every conceivable way, and yet

yes..yes, that's what I said

so since she was taking a moderate approach to maintain her known base, Trump effectively weaponized that moderation by promoting propaganda whipping up pro Palestinian, anti Israeli sentiment to keep voters out of the polls for Harris, even though Trump's plan is to

art of the compromise, including with horrific stakes, as well as the art of propaganda and false absolutes, so you are also doomed to be forever at the mercy of whichever asshole says the words you want to hear instead of taking the best action they CAN at the TIME.

Then you will be doomed to forever be ignorant of geopolitics and military action, since humans across the world are baby killing murderers and just about all defensive and offensive action is about protecting your kids from the tribe across the river, across both sides of it. And politics is the

levelling it and driving out everyone there. Good move, A+, big brain.

Gaza movement for MAGA, which, spoiler alert, IT IS, MTG doesn't give a fuck about Gaza, then there's independent reason right there to shut it down. Like drumming votes against Harris because she has to run in mainstream politics. Great, now you've got Trump drawing up Gaza resort plans after

Yeah no shit, dude, at no point have I said that's not a valid interpretation. I'm saying that it's not the ONLY way to view the situation. How was that money distributed? Is it materiel only or cash? What is MTG'a incentive for introducing the amendment? If it's a political trick to capture the

Okay, so, see, I've just written you off as a fanatic. There's no reaching you! No, vandalizing an office is not a huge deal compared to genocide, I am already with you there. But what have you ACCOMPLISHED?
Fucking nothing. Nothing. Nothing for Gaza, nothing for anyone.
Just more strife.

That is certainly a way to read her actions. Another way is that she means exactly what she said, and has been continuing to say for years, WHETHER OR NOT SHE IS CORRECT.

This is what a good conversation looks like! Like I said, I don't even disagree with you. I'm not arguing on whether that series of events is true.

I'm saying, that's NOT THE ONLY WAY TO READ THE HISTORY IN GOOD FAITH

Not that I think you personally vandalized her office.

But that's how your whole movement gets written off as fanatics, and rightfully so. Geopolitics and humans are COMPLICATED, and anyone who tells you different is selling something

the first place.

Not to mention she has to take into account the opinions of her constituents! Which I'm sure she does. So it's not like she can just vote however the fuck she wants, whenever.

But fuck, saying she's gaslighting and vandalizing her office because you think she's wrong?

She's obviously conflicted about it, and there's no indication she's in AIPAC's pocket. She's got the courage to vote her convictions even if it pisses off part of her base. Isn't that what you WANT from a politician? I certainly fucking do. No sycophants. That's why she's such an icon in

She has been consistently in favor of reducing human casualties on all sides, of deescalation, of diplomatic solutions, of economic aid, of humanitarian aid.

Now you want to throw her under the bus and say she's acting in bad faith because you don't agree with her obviously difficult take?

It's reductionist thinking, it's not creative, it's propaganda, and worst of all, it alienates you from your best potential allies, like, say, AOC, who has consistently voted her conscience at huge personal and political risk for what, a decade now?

She has been pro Palestine since way before this

What's his face? He specifically was saying to glass Israel with nuclear weapons, I think you misread that, but could have been me

Here's the problem, mate. I'm not even arguing with your premise. I'm arguing with your declation that NO OTHER OPTIONS EXIST

This is why leftists suck at influence!

So famously antisemitism didn't exist before post WW2?

Hey go fuck yourself dawg, mkay? The adults are talking