Cameron Peters

Why?

The nimby is a strange species of special pleading!

It's why the folks over at GTE have been speaking up, admin and city council needs to be reminded that these weirdos are a tiny minority.

I love how the Dimbys on FB have been all like "he was manipulated into saying it." Man kept speaking when he had the chance to shut the fuck up.

So you can with cards now and we’re gonna extend the rail down that far likely this generation.

Man the ungoverning model is perfect for explaining her…

Janz can we have a bollard like this on 83rd and 102 as a treat?

It's why I believe everything that can be done towards the goal, should be done. Because those people will fight every action taken that they physically can. Those who like the status quo must be overwhelmed by change.

This was my greatest moment of fury during canvassing back in October, discovering that residents of that neighbourhood had engaged in laser/light based harassment of supportive housing residents.

-this. The place I see public housing doing the most good is to address the massive historical injustices that have been wrought onto the First Nations. Surprise surprise, neighbourhoods in Edmonton like Westmount have been fighting this kind of supportive housing.

So we probably both believe a minimum of 50% of the current rental market would be a good start for public housing. The insight I'm failing to persuade you on is that we are so below required supply because we enforced a model of single family homes that kept supply low and that markets can correct-

Read the definition I posted 4 seconds after you and quibble as you like about it.

That goal of course being that across the populace no one is left without housing, and the required amenities, and that no one is using significantly more of their resources than is required to house themselves to that standard. We both agree that in the end there should be no profit in housing.

I just had to change a noun, a pronoun and a tense and your argument takes on the form of THEE most boring right wing "argument" against anything more progressive than liberalism. If you want to get me to abandon market policy you have to show me that they can't reach our shared goal.

"If [socialism] were to work, it would already have worked because [they had] been doing it for decades."

Wow, truly, your argument is sooo distinct from the illogical nonsense of "demand side housing" policy guys, libertarians, trumpers, and Austrian economists I spent much of 2023 arguing with.

I'm sick and tired of arguing against Dan's argument's ideological mirror of "if socialism worked why did USSR fail because they had been doing socialism for decades." Come on, we're all much better educated on this side of things.

Wait till the bus lanes come through oh boy oh boy!

Special pleading. Your argument has been exhaustively used by right wingers against public housing for at least two centuries.

Twice, in October while abroad due to screwing up a hotel booking and in August of 2022 in Vancouver due to a mishap with regional transit. Nobody should be without a roof over their head for any period of time. That's why it is essential for their to be a baseline level of non-market housing.

You upset me because you're like some Christian screaming about how they have the one true solution to living a moral life. MLI select and similar programs are not mutually exclusive with non-market housing and their goals complement each other. And upzoning is literally a free lunch for a city.

Are you literate?

Govt also ran deficits it couldn't easily pay off. Maybe if govt wasn't subsidizing suburban greenfield developers it would have had more money to do public good?

What the hell did you think I meant by social safety net? Of course we need supportive housing systems. But the fact remains that rezoning such as the one from the image you sent me works and has brought rent prices DOWN. It's a policy that hurts no one and reduces the need for public housing.

Stop it, don't encourage the worst Daniel out there.

No shit. And incorrect. Edmonton for instance is actively pushing in the opposite direction and our progressives won an election on the issue. Also, I'm sorry but I'd rather put tax dollars into public transit, healthcare, education places where for profit has failed every time.

The housing crisis would be less of an issue because it would be harder to fall through the cracks AND it would be less expensive to rebuild the currently derelict social safety net AND we could take some of the strain off of social workers.

Moreover, there are nations with better cost of living than Canada with lower home ownership rates. Germany in all its flaws is one such example. Yes of course non market and supportive housing solutions are required. But if rent was half of what it was due to increased supply...

So, not to sound like a free market ideologue because I'm not. Buuuut... Zoning laws in all their infinite variations in North America have curtailed the development of efficient and equitable housing options. In most parts of North America we have never had a free market system for housing.

As a fellow local small time advocate for liberated zoning it's frustrating when our provincial and federal "progressive" allies seem determined put all their eggs into the non market housing basket and consider no other policy tools.

His ward doesn't even have sidewalks in key places lol.