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It looks as though the only unaccented vowel that may surface after [y] (from *n-y) is [a] ; the others, namely high /i u/, are syncopated

09.08.2025 06:11 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

*p+mo > bo : Neg. apó
(Pres.)

At the left end of a verb, sequences of consonants are avoided via vowel copying,

while at the right end, they are avoided by deletion--at least synchronically.

Forms in Yásin suggest the 3s ending was simply *-i (identical to the 3s prefix), and -imi arose later.

09.08.2025 04:21 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

3s séymi écyi
pl-subj séyman (?)écyan

Endings -umo (3f), -imi (3s), -uman (pl) appear to have been truncated: their initial vowel is removed.

When these abbreviated forms are added to an obstruent (here cy), they further lose their /m/:

*écy+mo > écyo
*écy+mi > ecyi

This parallels 'be' 3f ...

09.08.2025 04:18 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

2s sénuma éttuma
3f sénumo éttumo
3s sénimi éttimi
pl-subj sénuman éttuman

The Future adds these nonpresent endings to the Imperfective stem, characterized by *y-suffixation. Note *n-y yields [y] and *tt-y yields [cy] (palatal affricate).

1s séyam écyam
2s séyma écyuma
3f séymo écyo
...

09.08.2025 04:13 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 2    📌 0

#Burushaski
Húnza dialect

has related sets of endings for (i) the Preterite and (ii) the Future tense, for which a good label is "nonpresent."

I'll illustrate with the verb stems 'say' sén- and 'do (3s-obj) étt-. The Preterite adds these endings to the Aorist (unmarked stem):

1s sénam éttam
...

09.08.2025 04:08 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

I'm curious re the Neg. forms to these stems for 'make/cause to be'

2s ddukósman-
3f ddumósman-
1p ddimésman-

08.08.2025 05:47 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

#Burushaski
Húnza dialect

We find modern sequences like -rk- alongside -rg-, but I don't know of *rkh.

In my view the protolanguage had only voiceless stops (+asp and –asp), so my new hypothesis is that
*-rk- > rg (voi assimilation)
*-rkh- > rk (deasp. in a cluster)

08.08.2025 02:32 — 👍 1    🔁 1    💬 0    📌 0

#Burushaski
Yoshioka 2012:ccxviii

Support for the idea that Pl. ending [-nc] is a syncopated form of [-muc]:

'glacier' ghamú has the pl. forms ghamú-nc ~ ghamú-muc

07.08.2025 15:54 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

#Burushaski
Yoshioka 2012:ccxvi

'scrape off, gnaw'
gukór- (Type 1 stem)
{i}khókur- (Type 2)

Suggesting an underlying form *khu(Q)kuQr-

or perhaps the *Q metathesizes; or the /o/ is underlyingly a mid vowel.

Here too deaspiration kh>k feeds the initial voicing rule k>g, suggesting Húnza forms

07.08.2025 15:44 — 👍 1    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

Compare 1s

'I will say' séyam

'I will come' zrúcram

where [+am] is invariant

07.08.2025 07:05 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

#Burushaski
Húnza dialect, Future tense

There is, iirc, a discrepancy in the endings for e.g. 3f subj:

'she will say' séymo
< *sén-y-(u)mu, perhaps with syncope after the palatalized nasal

'she will come' zrúcro
< *zrú-cy-mu

Whether the /m/ of *-mu surfaces seems to depend on the Ipfv. form
<

07.08.2025 07:04 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

Compare, from root 'be/do' man-,
meíme (or meéyme)

for
*man-y-úm-e

Maybe a better spelling for 'drinking' would be *mií(y)me

07.08.2025 05:59 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

... accent on mora 2:
*mi[n]-y-úm-e

-cy/y marks Imperfective

-um Adnominal (adj.)

-e likely Essive

07.08.2025 05:05 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

There's also 'eat (y obj)' syé- (Ptcp. nusyén ?), notably lacking a coda.

A common formula concluding a narrative is 'I came (back) eating and drinking'

je(-0) syécyume míyme ddáayam

syé-cy-um +e

exactly parallels míyme:
*min-y-um +e

whose accent tho defies explanation atm--would expect ...

07.08.2025 05:03 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

But note that in
sén-as, sén-am etc. /n/ is also onset, not coda!

07.08.2025 04:44 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

The verb 'know' has unprefixed hén- : Neg. akhén-, with the same pattern, therefore likely *khan- at an earlier stage.

What is the participle? Would expect (*)nukhén.

Are there unprefixed (Type 1) verbs with initial /kh/ ?

07.08.2025 04:43 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

*-lttélan- may be ruled out simply because the /l/ is not a coda but the onset of the following syllable.

07.08.2025 04:38 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 2    📌 0

What sén/san, barén/paran, ttalén/lttálan share is that a>e only occurs between coronal consonants...

so why not *-lttélan- ?

Does it have to be between a coronal onset and coda /n/ ?

07.08.2025 04:37 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

Shâri Bâno # 131 has
'do not say' oósan Prohib. (neg. imper., zero ending, but no deletion of final coronal)

[oó] is the Húnza leveling of /a+ú/, Neg. prefix plus Null element

'say' therefore has allomorphs sén- (tonic), -san- (atonic), parallel to

*paran- 'look'
barén-as : apáran : nupára(n)

07.08.2025 04:34 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

#Burushaski UNT Archive, Shâri Bâno # 127f

'she arrived late' 3f Aor.
mu-kháran-umo

Ptcp. numúkara
i.e. /n+ mu+ kharan/

vowel copying -> accent mora 2 -> deaspiration (kh -> k) in an unaccented syllable (regular for Húnza verbs);
final coronal deletion (n -> 0)

07.08.2025 04:17 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

#Burushaski
Húnza dialect

Aside from /ltt/ which behaves like a unitary phoneme, in the verb system clusters are broken up via vowel copying.

But this is only true in the domain of moras 1 and 2. E.g. 'arrive/reach'

3s ddésrqalttas
<sr> retroflex fricative
<dd, tt> dental stops (not geminates)

06.08.2025 06:40 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

Always happy to talk about Pānini!

Been a few years since I've studied it, but he's been tremendously helpful in his approach to grammar

06.08.2025 06:15 — 👍 1    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

On verb roots, indicatory Ñ shows that both active (Parasmai) and mediopassive (Ātmane) endings are used, rather than just one set

06.08.2025 06:12 — 👍 1    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

zero grade for the root, rather than the default Guņa

So from the root svap- 'sleep' the participle (suffix -Ktá) is suptá.

Another IT marker is P, which says "this affix shall not bear the accent."

'press' Pres. active 3rd dual is sunutás, vs 3rd sg (suffix -tiP) sunóti

06.08.2025 06:10 — 👍 2    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

It would indeed. In my attempt to model the alternation Q started out as purely a lowering element; then I realized it would tidy things up if it could itself bear the accent

Pānini uses segments with indicatory purposes in his grammar. When an affix is marked with K for instance it selects ...

06.08.2025 06:06 — 👍 1    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

Note the variant forms for '3'

iskí : uskó

Likely another instance of vowel copying, this time with a cluster intervening. Underlying forms perhaps

/ sk.í : sk.úQ /

I regard the ó as derived from /u/, since we don't have *oskó

06.08.2025 06:03 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

Though Burushaski has ergative marking, 1s-Agent is marked absolutive in future clauses

06.08.2025 06:00 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0
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Transcription: Retelling of Shari Bano from Fairyland Transcription of the recording of Laila Khan, a Hunza Burushaski speaker, reciting the story of "Shari Shaskulum Shari bano" ('Shari Bano of Fairyland'), a popular story, with translations in English.

digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/m...

06.08.2025 05:59 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 0    📌 0

#Burushaski archive, Shâri Bâno #106

'I will marry (take) you if you make me say 3 words within 3 days'

iskí-kuc xáa
three-day until

uskó bar-ing
three word-PL [accent uncertain]

dd-áa-gus-uma
you caused me to utter

je-0 gu-chú-cy-am
I[-ABS] will take you

06.08.2025 05:58 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 3    📌 0

This may not be the best approach to the forms of 'say' sén- : Ptcp. nusé(nin)

iirc the HB Neg. is oósan-. This e/a alternation occurs also in 'look' barén- : Neg. apáran- : Ptcp. nupára(nin)

and 'appear' (? iirc) ttalén- : Ptcp. nulttálan

In all these cases accented é alternates with [a]

06.08.2025 05:46 — 👍 0    🔁 0    💬 1    📌 0

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