Myroslava Luzina

...is not a native English speaker, and since you KNOW that your contribution to the discussion can't have been not valuable, you concluded that the person misunderstood you. This is a wonderful illustration of how our assumptions about the mind behind a locution shape how we will understand it.

...and then you tried to bless us with the insight that the term is being used for different things but you know the only true way it should be used, and when it was pointed out to you that you can't decree how a language community uses a term, you checked out that the person you're talking to...

...what we know (or assume) about the convo partner. You entered into a discussion with Prof. Bender not knowing what she said/wrote previously about AI (how the term is being used for different things), glazed over the fact that what she was talking about in this instance were in fact chatbots,...

To meaningfully participate in a discussion, it helps to understand what it is about. To a thread about chatbots, you replied that no, "they" have some uses & then proceeded to point out that when you say "AI", you don't mean chatbots.

Meaning is constructed (or not constructed) based on...

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You've responded to a couple of skeets where I said meaning of this common term varies (and there is no way out of this situation) with "No, meaning of common terms varies", and it's _me_ who is supposed to have misunderstood something?

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...that the term be used only for things you yourself find useful and practical, bc this is not how language works. I suggest you also browse Adam Kucharski's account — he wrote about the problem of how the rate of false positives/negatives for "AI" use that _you_ mean is also v problematic.

Well, that is the problem — not one to be solved linguistically, bc one cannot decree "we'll set THIS as an absolute meaning", but a problem with how "AI" is being pushed on people, which is what the thread is about, so, like OP, I wonder what the discussion is now about. You can't suggest...

Well, nothing but leaving you to it...

So, in a discussion about a use of a thing (or things) where some specialists posit that a relevant problem is what this thing is named (& which thingS the name is being used for), you refuse to actually go onto this meta level and stick to thinking your use of the word is the "absolute" one. ...

...tools for machine recognition of visual patterns, which is what _you_ supposedly call "AI". This is decidedly NOT the "absolute definition", you just want it to be.

You've already been told, it's a marketing weasel term being slapped on different things to help sell them as something new/useful.

"Computers doing wondrous things".

The "younger hip crowd" (which is not "average person on the street") would probably mean chatbots.

Thing is, people who make chatbots (and are presumably "specialists") also label them as "AI". The same company might also be involved in making...

...use it to refer to different things, none of which deserve the moniker "intelligence" as in the, um, accepted/public/relatively-absolute (yes, I know what I just said) meaning of that word.

I beg you to read a book. The book by OP. A cytologist is not a specialist in either linguistics (which deals with word meanings) or computer science. If you call ppl who produce "AI" specialists, reading a book by a linguist who analyzed how thes people use the term "AI" will show you that they...

Absolute definitions very rarely exist, & for "AI", there is no "absolute definition" - it's a marketing term applied to at least 4 diff types of things, which you would learn if you read the books about AI suggested in this thread.
Besides, definitions of words can't be but public (I'm simpifying).

...for anyone who stood under auspices of Zelensky's party back in 2019. I suspect 90% of people who voted for him don't remember his name.

He is just channeling the regular vatnik belief that the US is "installing presidents in UA", so he has suggested himself. He fled Ukraine summer 2024.

Treason would be specifically switching to the side of the aggressor (though he is definitely doing that). Bypassing the official leader is not treason, it is just nonsensical megalomania. He does not represent anyone in UA save for some ppl in his constituency (1 of 225 in UA), who were voting...

The problem with selling ‘intelligence’ as a product, is that you need to assume all your customers are thick. There’s no room for experts, everyone needs to have an intelligence deficit. So you end up telling Oscar winning scriptwriter Dame Emma Thompson that her writing could be better.

I happen to know that the WSJ _is_ trying to cut costs by using AI, which at least some of their editors think is The shit, and given that I don't think they would actually run a different kind of find-and-replace tool on anything find-and-replaceable.

. @volksverpetzer.de is suing X in Germany. Maybe some sharing of ideas could take place. X is claiming that moderation would be so burdensome as to cause its bankruptcy (or closing in markets where they have to moderate). That would be a lovely outcome either way.

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. @volksverpetzer.de is suing X in Germany. Maybe some sharing of ideas could take place. X is claiming that moderation would be so burdensome as to cause its bankruptcy (or closing in markets where they have to moderate). That would be a lovely outcome either way.

bsky.app/profile/volk...

"Das Auto hat eigentlich erst 8800 km drauf, aber es kann ja auch sein, dass bei so wenig Kilometern schon irgendwas ausgeschlagen ist. Das wäre ja bei Tesla grundsätzlich keine Superneuheit..." 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Omdat in dit stadium, gewoon beweren dat je bedreigd wordt is al publiciteitstrigger genoeg.

To provide context of how these things develop: we in Ukraine have passed the stage of coming up to a police cordon with carnations & sticking a carnation into a hole in a policeperson's shield back in 2004.

By 2014, protesters were being shot at.

I'm afraid the US of A are doing a crash course.

But yes, when the account handle says Shevchenko and account name says Kovalenko, that's a dead giveaway.

also, "moth" in previous skeet should have been "both" 🤦‍♀️

-enko is a gender-neutral surname suffix, meaning -offspring (i. e. like -son or -dottir, but it's in neutral gender, so can be used for moth males and females). Moreover, when a man's -enko surname gets declined, it will become -enka in Genitive, while a woman's -enko surname doesn't decline.

Lots of what is now Germans traipsing through Estonia over the centuries, I suppose. Teutonic Order and stuff: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:De...

...is ongegrond.

En als je nieuws over 🇺🇦 zou volgen een tikje beter dan Oekraïners nieuws over 🇳🇱politiek, zou je opmerken dat de spelling Kyiv in NL medën al lang domineert, uit respect aan Oekr. opvatting over hoe zijn onafhankelijk bestaan uitgedrukt kan worden.

bv www.google.com/search?clien...

Mijn bedoeling was aan te tonen dat als je gaat muggenziften over vlaggetjes die iemand heeft geplaatst, kan iemand ook iets in je posts vinden om er over te muggenziften. Dat laat overigens juist zien dat Schoof en NL in Oekraïne niet te beroemd zien, dus deze post te verstaan als eerbetoon...

...that I find criticism of Schoof somewhat unfair. He is a technical PM who took upon himself a pretty thankless job of leading a cabinet formed by an extremely dysfunctional coalition of several extremely dysfunctional parties, while he belongs to none of them.

...simply post about it bc we are grateful for any kind of expressions of support. Again, a Prime Minister is a freakin' institution. If Dutch voters think he's inadequate — they go, vota and straighten their politics out (if they can).

Not to mention...