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Problem with rugby is that they don’t have a go at the referee enough; this is why England are losing right now

Lmfao, and who did the pessimist and realist in you think was going to replace Frank?

Yep, I've been saying this to people for about a month, but now that Frank's sacked they finally realise that the only viable options were Igor Tudor or Steve Cooper. Braindead fanbase.

It was Igor Tudor or Steve Cooper. People were very clearly warned about this scenario before sacking Frank.

who did you think we were going to bring in? 🤣

Who did these people think we were going to bring in? It was Tudor or Steve Cooper.

Odobert has 1 goal and 2 assists in 40 PL games for Tottenham Hotspur; Muani has 0, Xavi has 1. Yet you paint them as equivalent to Son, Kulu and Maddison, your generation has well and truly lost it.

I mean he could hardly bench the expensive RW they signed?

Sorry, but are you genuinely still trying to argue that Richarlison/Kudus/Odobert/Muani/Xavi is an equivalent frontline to Son/Maddison/Kulusevski/Johnson/Richarlison?

If so, I've got some magic beans to sell you....

Not to mention that the player that scored three for Arsenal is the one the board fucked around and failed to sign.

So our forward line was Son, Maddison, Johnson and Kulusevski, with Richarlison and PEH coming off the bench.

Son scored twice.

Night and day in quality difference.

We showed intent under Ange and it was complete catastrophe lol.

Honestly I think the last draw against Chelsea I can remember was under Conte. Kane (now sold) and Hojbjerg (gammons wanted him out) scored.

It's a running theme that the fanbase is somewhat responsible for the club's fate.

Yeah it was clear he was overperforming and the collapse was coming, but the question is whether other managers would do a better job given the limits of the squad? Obviously you guys think differently: Steve Cooper comes in and we're top-4 by April. Unlikely to me but I guess we'll find out.

Chelsea or Arsenal? Sorry I know your lot like to claim the squad is good enough, but they're not that good, surely? I genuinely don't remember the last time we got a result against those two.

He had a good enough start when the squad was somewhat functional. The rest of the forward line might have been shit but Kudus and Richy were at least seemingly able to cobble together a partnership. Things started to collapse in line with injuries. It's as clear as day.

No, they ultimately had a choice: (1) the squad isn't good enough, and it's not all Frank's fault; or (2) the squad is good enough, and it is all Frank's fault.

The gammons picked 2: the squad is good enough, sack the manager, now the club is looking to pay the ultimate price for it.

Maybe so mate, but I never take the easy way out with opinions and and fold to popular narratives. The fanbase should have been screaming at the club to make signings in Jan; instead they've taken the easy way out and got the manager sacked. We're almost certainly worse off because of it.

Btw there is literal footage of Xavi repeatedly fucking up through balls on the break.

What wingers lol? Odobert was shite; it was rational to circumvent them.

By strikers you mean the good ones right, i.e Richy/Solanke, the others haven't been scoring much.

I mean Ange had a completely vacant midfield too?

Yeah, two more than the others have though? FWIW, Solanke scored more goals in one PL game than Odobert, Xavi and Muani have all season. Is that not an indictment to the lack of quality in the forward line?

Well he wasn't signed him either to be fair

My personal view is that had Solanke, Madders and Kulu not had close to season-long injuries, Frank would have done a considerably better job. Even a quality winger would have helped. We now literally have zero.

And Johnson had as many goals as, or more than, Kudus, Xavi and Odobert because?

But this is the point of the thread? Is recruitment a problem or not, was Frank dealt a bad hand or not? You seem to be claiming that had we had Ange this season, Xavi, Muani and Odobert would be pumping the goals in; and I think that's complete bollocks.

Also sorry, so is recruitment a problem or not then?

So your view now is that these players will now become world beaters now that Frank's gone? How many PL goals are you expecting from Muani and Xavi between now and the end of the season?

It reduced them but not Richy?

Do you think it's a coincidence that our top scorer from last season was able to outscore them?

The gammons were fighting tooth and nail to get Johnson sold, which is no doubt ultimately why he left. Frank deff should have blocked it though, agree with that.

I mean yeah, the board also signed poorly for Ange, but he inherited Son/Kulu/Madders/Johnson, which meant he had a functional forward line. Richarlison was one of the only quality forwards Frank inherited, and, surprise surprise, he was his top scorer. The others were either injured or shite.

"or even for top 8"

This is the problem. People on here all season pushing the narrative that we'd be somewhere around 9th to 12th if not for mean ol' Thomas Frank. We have one of the worst front lines in the club's PL history, people really seem incapable of grasping this.

Yeah reposting the guy saying the squad isn't good enough, so you're agreeing with me then?