The developers will make a packet, and the houses will be unsaleable in less than 100 years as the population shrinks, having had irreversible environmental impact. Utilising our existing housing better and not building quite as many new homes would surely be a better solution?
20.11.2025 17:35 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
I suppose it depends whether youโre talking about โover housingโ in relation to homelessness or space for stuff โฆ But mass house building is not going to the floor space issue. We could build all the houses you want but they will be as tiny as developers can get away with.
20.11.2025 17:35 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Iโm proffering an element of nuance to your blanket declaration. You have written off facts and statistics that donโt suit your narrative, that you simply โdonโt acceptโ, and make assumptions about causation without giving weight to any other factors. That takes confidence.
20.11.2025 16:47 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
I admire your determined subjectivity.
20.11.2025 14:47 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Housing is one of the factors (but absolutely not the only one). I agree we havenโt built enough in the right places (hence itโs great that theyโre reviewing the โgreen beltโ). But, by every metric I can find, we are also over housed across the board, including where people want and need to live.
20.11.2025 12:07 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Interesting. 90k is probably not accurate (the sourcing and analysis are unhelpfully opaque) but even if it were a 200% overestimation, it still confirms a serious over-housing issue. What itโs not is a solution.
Unsure what you mean by โnot independent variablesโ.
20.11.2025 11:55 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Some of it is just maths - for example central London has over 90k vacant residential properties. And youโre right - weโve been building cheap housing where we can rather than where itโs needed.
Thought experiment - how many of your friend with kids at home live in bigger homes than their parents?
20.11.2025 11:06 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Failing to counter this ludicrous narrative of British Exceptionalism and overwhelming exploitative immigration is bad enough. Legislation like this give credence to it, and itโs only a short hop to the Great Replacement Theory rabbit hole. Moderates pandering to the right is what lets in fascism.
20.11.2025 10:43 โ ๐ 2 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
Youโre right. There is already a wealth of unfit housing! But thatโs mostly down to unscrupulous landlords and overstretched councils. And commercial housebuilding has a place, but so does shifting the cultural reluctance to recognise personal over-housing and consider downsizing.
20.11.2025 10:33 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Iโve worked with people affected by the housing shortage and homelessness, mostly those with disabled children. Itโs appalling.
20.11.2025 10:17 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
What are the environmental impacts of construction materials?
Understand the embodied ecological impacts of key construction materials like iron, aluminium and concrete.
If you canโt get your head around the environmental impact of mass building (or care), then perhaps consider the expense of it. We import 60% building material constituents.
Iโm merely saying we should collectively recognise we could mitigate the problem if we wanted to.
ukgbc.org/news/introdu...
20.11.2025 10:08 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
I understand that. But quite a lot are. Relying exclusively on building more houses is a VERY resource hungry way of fixing the problem. Particularly as the population is set to start shrinking in about 20 years (a deadline that is only ever revised down).
20.11.2025 09:51 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Even if every person in the country had their own bedroom (including married couples) and each property also had a spare bedroom, we still have something like 160M empty bedrooms โฆ
20.11.2025 09:34 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
A quick look at ONS stats shows the problem isnโt actually a shortage of housing, itโs that people donโt downsize and we have too many air b&b properties.
20.11.2025 09:28 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 2 ๐ 0
But the infrastructure is there. Easier to get more trains than build a rail line.
20.11.2025 09:20 โ ๐ 2 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Who could have predicted?
20.11.2025 09:02 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
As art, itโs questionable. But this is why they want it removed? So they can get on with their prejudice uninterrupted, with the humanity of their victims unexamined?
20.11.2025 08:01 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
C'est du nรฉgationnisme assistรฉ par ordinateur. Grok est peut-รชtre artificiel, mais il est dรฉpourvu d'intelligence.
19.11.2025 23:21 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
With the greatest of respect, Martyn Oliver hasnโt worked in a school since 2016, and I doubt he would choose to now even if they doubled his salary. Teaching is a different ecosystem now from 10 yrs ago. The new framework is great for brilliant schools but crippling for the decent struggling ones.
19.11.2025 16:58 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
โdig-whistleโ ๐
DOG-whistle
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19.11.2025 09:23 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
Farageโs ability to dig-whistle in broad daylight is truly astonishing. โI donโt know! Iโm just asking questions!โ
Itโs all a grift. Heโs in it for wealth and power, and if the Untermensch gets a kicking along the way, so much the better.
19.11.2025 08:34 โ ๐ 3 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
If we think health and social care are expensive now, wait till the elderly are the majority of the population, we have fewer tax payers to share the burden, and no one can afford to work in care because of it.
19.11.2025 07:15 โ ๐ 2 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Prescreen at embassies so they can travel with dignity from the first safe country they reach.
19.11.2025 06:59 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 1 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
Has no one ever told her about internalised racism?
18.11.2025 15:05 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
The problem is there isnโt really a dispute here. No one seems to be interested in the facts. In the context of our overall immigration, we donโt even have a problem with the number of asylum applicants. There were reasons our overall immigration spiked and itโs back down now.
18.11.2025 15:03 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
If a problem has existed in the policy, itโs that we havenโt enabled people to apply from overseas. Thereโs no real natural barrier to that.
Funding asylum processing properly is the biggest ma made problem, and no politician has been willing to do that since they ratified the Geneva Conventions โฆ
18.11.2025 14:58 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
(Purchasing power parity just takes into account the internal currency value rather than exchange rate.)
18.11.2025 13:38 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
Hmm looks like the Spectator has retracted the original article so I canโt comment. But I wouldnโt trust Fraser Nelson to split a bar tab if I couldnโt see the workings โฆ
18.11.2025 13:05 โ ๐ 4 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
Again itโs not a like-for-like comparison. Youโd at least need to deduct health insurance from US income.
18.11.2025 12:59 โ ๐ 1 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 1 ๐ 0
Not if you compare disposable income. Healthcare, education, childcare etc etc are centrally funded out of taxation for much of Europe so their standard of living is significantly higher, even if their โtake homeโ income is lower.
18.11.2025 12:55 โ ๐ 0 ๐ 0 ๐ฌ 0 ๐ 0
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