Dave's Notes

My wife left before I did. First postmo group she attended she remarked to me how the ExMo men dominated the group. She later joined up with an ExMo group that is exclusively women. The patriarchy does tend to come along with ExMo men and it’s something I have to keep reminding myself about.

If Bradley ordered or passed on the orders for the illegal strike, he is culpable regardless and I have no sympathy for him.

LDS temple actors that portrayed Satan.

Yeah, I realized afterward that I misread it.

Queue the aphorism: The good found in Mormonism isn’t unique to Mormonism.

Ok, I read it again. Streeter and I are on the same page. I agree - ExMos generally don’t give up the good they’ve learned from Mormonism. The juxtaposition of his statement with the faulty assumption in the Ward Radio episode title threw me.

It was via @blairhodges.bsky.social ‘s TikTok that I learned about the Deseret News piece. This is very good.

And frankly, Deseret News (@deseret.com.web.brid.gy), have you watched Ward Radio? I find it somewhat antithetical to the 13th Article of Faith. Just saying.

A collaboration with Latter-day Saint hosts of Ward Radio, a faithful, light-hearted show by several members of the church, ended up being titled "Good things ex-Mormons tend to abandon that they shouldn't," with Streeter suggesting those who leave think seriously about retaining three Latter-day Saint beliefs: universal humanity (seeing everyone as a child of God), seeking the good as summed up in the 13th Article of Faith (being honest, benevolent and doing good to all men), and practicing forgiveness and grace.

I’ve experienced the opposite of what Streeter, an ExMo, is purportedly saying. I have had a much MORE increased appreciation for humanity on the outside of the LDS faith - especially for the marginalized. I still hold to the principles of the 13th Article of Faith. I’m a bit confused by this para.

Why can’t ex-Mormons just leave the LDS Church alone? I was prepared for pushback from very orthodox Mormons who might be unwilling to admit there are serious retention problems in the U.S. LDS Church, but surprisingly, former Church members have been mo...

Survey says “…most former Mormons left as teenagers and are happy as clams. That they're not angst-ridden, and don't seem to be looking back with regret.”

But YMMV

Perspective: Let’s get real about loss of faith Individuals who have stepped away from faith speak candidly about real life trade-offs, heartaches and ongoing challenges.

LDS owned newspaper serving up cautionary tales about people leaving the church.

The Mormon repentance process, as I understood it, would include turning yourself in for crimes - confession to a Bishop isn’t sufficient. So now I’m wondering how in the hell does someone get re-baptized after a CSA confession without going through criminal adjudication.

If I heard Big Box Mormonism in the wild I’d think CoJCoLDS 😆

County hasn’t received any funds yet for housing ICE detainees - Uinta County Herald MOUNTAIN VIEW — During the Uinta County staff meeting, held the morning of Nov. 18, at the Mountain View Town Hall preceding that afternoon’s commission meeting, treasurer Terry Brimhall ...

ICE hasn’t paid the Uinta County (WY) sheriff’s office for housing their detainees and I can’t say I’m sad about that.

Some units of the military have shown they’re more willing to do crimes because they’ve convinced themselves they’re doing the work of god. Special Operations units have an especially poor track record in this regard.

I love that the reporter just laid out the military law. I’m not sure what Leavitt is hoping with her nonsensical response because the wheels are coming off.

Commander overseeing US forces in the Caribbean to retire one year into tenure | CNN Politics The admiral overseeing US Southern Command, which has responsibility for forces in the Caribbean, where the US has carried out multiple legally ambiguous strikes against alleged drug cartels, is retir...

“The admiral overseeing US Southern Command, which has responsibility for forces in the Caribbean, where the US has carried out multiple legally ambiguous strikes against alleged drug cartels, is retiring one year into his tenure…”

Bradley would be rightfully prosecuted for murder because there is no way he didn’t know thats what it was.

SOCOM commander. It’s looking like SOUTHCOM told Hegseth to eat shit.

It’s also illegal to order the military to give no quarter.

4 Out of 5 US Troops Surveyed Understand the Duty to Disobey Illegal Orders With his Aug. 11, 2025, announcement that he was sending the National Guard – along with federal law enforcement – into Washington, D.C. to fight crime, President Donald Trump edged U.S. troops closer...

When I was in the military we received annual “law of armed conflict” training. US military personnel are trained to refuse illegal orders and especially those that are clearly illegal. This is not obscure military doctrine.

DoD’s Law of War manual provides as an example of “Clearly Illegal Orders” an order “to fire upon the shipwrecked.” This is exactly what is alleged against Pete Hegseth and the forces that fired on survivors in the Caribbean. There is no nuance.

I didn’t know it was a series. Perhaps they catch the excommunication later. The producers, director, and distribution company appear to have strong LDS ties according to the Form C-AR they filed with the SEC.

www.sec.gov/Archives/edg...

For some additional leadership context mission presidents preside over district presidents when there is no Stake. When I got my patriarchal blessing recommendation in the Philippines, in a district, my interviews were with the BP (my Dad) then the mission president.

mormonr.org Were there German Saints who resisted the Nazis? Yes. The most well-known example is Helmuth Hübener, who, along with friends from his branch in Hamburg, distributed anti-Nazi pamphlets.75) Hübener was executed for his actions against the Nazi government. 76|77) Max Reschke(Bio) helped shelter Jews from the Nazis, 78) and another Saint was arrested for refusing to give the Nazi salute at work. 79[80]

(77) For his treason against the Nazi state, Hübener was posthumously excommunicated by his local branch president, Arthur Zander, and the mission leader Anthon Huck. However, Hübener's district president, Otto Berndt, objected to this measure but allowed it "to avoid further difficulties with the [Nazi] party and to show that the church had nothing to do with the treason these boys were accused of." After the war, Hübener's excommunication was overturned by the First Presidency: It wasn't until well after the war when, on II November 1946, he and the new mission president, Max Zimmer, wrote "excommunication done by mistake" on Hübener's membership record. Later, Zimmer's successor, Jean Wunderlich, notified the Salt Lake leadership of the affair, and on 24 January, 1948, the First Presidency ordered a similar notation placed on the membership record. • Otto Berndt, district president in Germany, recounts his experience with Helmuth Hübener. • Alan F. Keele and Douglas F. Tobler review the life and resistance efforts of Helmuth Hübener.

MormonR only refers to Hübener’s excommunication in a footnote.

Wowee, someone really is in denial that Hubener was factually excommunicated. I'm not optimistic that the 4-part streaming series won't be some kind of faith-affirming historical revisionism to save face for the church. Whitewashing LDS Nazis is not the way.

The LDS church still regards me as a member- I haven’t removed my name because that’s their hoop not mine. But it would be ironic in the distant future if the church tried to proudly point to people like me as their anti-fascist members who vehemently opposed the rising Trump dictatorship.

“Why do you think the excommunication wasn’t mentioned in the movie?”

Just wow.

Arrest of Rodrigo Duterte - Wikipedia

BTW, Trump and Hegseth, former Philippine president Rodrigo Duterte is awaiting trial at The Hague for crimes against humanity including extrajudicial killings of alleged drug dealers and users.