Captain Easychord

Here’s the truth about Britain’s immigration hysteria: Starmer and co have whipped it up to get cheap votes | Nesrine Malik He is part of a political establishment that is fuelling a crisis way beyond the point that they can ever be seen to solve it. It’s a cynical, idiotic doom loop, says Guardian columnist Nesrine Malik

“We must wean the UK off its “immigration dependency”, Starmer said in 2022. But the problem is his – and the entire political establishment’s – dependency on immigration as an issue to be exploited.”

Bang on, @nesrinemalik.bsky.social www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...

Ok this is my laugh for the night.

Right, so I was just asking you to provide an example of civil disobedience that "didn't last the test of time".
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Civil disobedience - Wikipedia

Have you ever actually heard of the term civil disobedience?
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Oh come off it, now you're trying to imply I support terrorism. 🙄
Yea of course I would be against a pro-Hamas march.

Give me one NON-VIOLENT example of someone deliberately breaking a law that was not "on the right side of history".

I refute it as an example because what we're discussing is people breaking laws they don't think should exist (and in the case of examples are pretty clearly morally unfair) in non-violent ways, not murdering people.
It's not relevant or even remotely analogous.

I asked you for a counter example to Gandhi, Rosa Parks and suffragettes and you went with Hamas. 😂

1 in 3 doctors were born overseas.

1 in 5 university academics were born overseas.

1 in 7 UK business founders were born overseas.

1 in 2 builders were born overseas.

1 in 5 nurses were born overseas.

1 in 4 transport workers were born overseas.

The media, their framing, IS the problem

Welp

Letter of the day (in the Times)

Here’s the truth about Britain’s immigration hysteria: Starmer and co have whipped it up to get cheap votes | Nesrine Malik He is part of a political establishment that is fuelling a crisis way beyond the point that they can ever be seen to solve it. It’s a cynical, idiotic doom loop, says Guardian columnist Nesrine Malik

Every word of this.

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Where are the hard-working Americans who screamed, “They’re stealing our jobs”?

You’re getting your wish. Immigrant workers aren’t showing up, and farm owners are hiring.

I'd be interested to hear how analogous your counter examples are.

Well good luck to the desperately over stretched, underfunded justice system dealing with 500+ people arrested. Especially if they try to prosecute the ones who put a full stop between the word 'Palestine' and the word 'action'.

By the same token you'd have been supporting the force feeding of suffragettes, the imprisonment of Gandhi in the arrest of Rosa Parks. All broke the law.

Ok, so do you think proscribing the group was wise? Do you think it's achieved what it set out to do?

Ha! Yes, indeed. Can't stand nostalgia fueled, rose tinted spectacled nonsense.

But we do have some pressing, fundamental problems that will take serious time and effort to few politicians are talking about them.

"Broken Britain"... nobody should be able to use that phrase without explaining why it's broken. And it's not "the boats", the Labour govt (bad though they are) or "woke".

It's mainly due to austerity, 14 years of Tory mismanagement, Brexit & privatisation.

People are protesting against a genocide. The UK govt (which is helping the govt committing the genocide by supplying plane parts and intelligence) is arresting people protesting against the genocide.

Seriously... are they the good guys?

The contrast in reporting these stories is nuts, right? It's not just me?

At some stage, someone in the government needs to look at the Palestine Action situation in purely pragmatic terms: is proscription specifically achieving any of the goals they wanted it to, or is it proving entirely counterproductive?

More than 150 arrests at protest against ban on Palestine Action Eleven more die from malnutrition in Gaza, Hamas-run health ministry says 'People are angry': Behind the wave of asylum hotel protests

Can someone make sense of our Government’s behaviour in this triptych, because I can’t.

It's ludicrous. Asylum hotel protestors are badly, deliberately misinformed and some have violent intent, as proven a year ago.

Pro Palestine protesters are protesting against an actual genocide currently happening and are highly unlikely to end in violence.

That's the whole point of the protest really, to show how utterly ludicrous it is to spend thousands of hours of police time arresting and processing 474 people for holding signs that just contain the name of a group that vandalised some planes.

Yep, it's laughable how the media talk about "legitimate concerns" when completely misinformed people turn up outside hotels (only a year after this nearly resulted in murderous arson), but seem to think peaceful protestors against genocide are fringe lunatics akin to terrorists.

Funny how quiet all those free speech absolutists who loudly defend, say, protestors outside abortion clinics, seem to have very little to say about pro Palestine protesters arrested for holding signs.

History has shown that when a law is silly or unfair it needs to be broken.

Medicare for All - "That's socialism!"

Social Security - "That's socialism!"

Debt free education - "That's socialism!"

Universal childcare - "That's socialism!"

$1 trillion in tax cuts for the richest 1%...

"That's just how it is."

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And how on earth do you simply separate "militants" and civilians? History tends to suggest it's impossible.