you have got to wonder, where's his parents?

are they as disappointed in him as the rest of us are?

i kinda hope his mother has disowned him tbh

when it's a choice between regressive or status quo policy, its not a surprise they'd choose neither

preaching to a crowd of OAP's who lived and worked in a completely different era pre highspeed-internet

he's just trying to appease his commercial property owning donors

he's such a grifter and so full of shit it's beyond shameful, yet it works on the naïve

good fuck Farage, grifting wanker

it's almost like corporate profits are through the roof and wages are through the floor

wonder how we could redress that?

I entirely agree and have been saying the same for the last few days, the Tories did far worse and clung on regardless.

A leadership challenge is a distraction and delay to *all the things* that need doing, but Starmer really needs to stop trying to court reform voters and make progressive policy

it doesn't bode well does it.

frankly, it's absurd.

this is a manufactured media frenzy to try and oust a leader the right wing don't like.

like we ever got a general election when the Tories had to replace their disgraced leaders 5 fucking times.

there's no way I'd be calling for Starmers head, without Farages head first.

it's been VERY quiet on Farage's involvement in the files

no calls for him to resign, even though he's mentioned over 40 times and he's still in contact with Bannon and the Trump cabal.

no calls for byelections for the reform defectors either, yet we're supposed to expect a PM resignation + GE

book title "how to in-fight your way out of power"

i thought he was saying he couldn't bring weed to the wedding

took a minute to figure out he meant poof

i have no idea how much they are pushing it, but i'll go with what you're saying as it lines up with what i've witnessed - i.e. not a lot, but the media ecosphere and algorithm influence is not helping.

either way, they're pretty shit at communicating their plans and intentions

i think the gov is probably pushing it as much as it always has, the delivery of "news" these days has changed dramatically and what you'll see is down to algorithms and editorial decisions.

the 24hr news cycle + social media has been highly detrimental to important verified news Vs spectacles

100% yes.

get the fuck off that heil-site.

I'd have to look at twitter to know that tbh. which i haven't since musk took over.

can't deny that labour have been foolishly chasing reform voters

best thing they could do is actually make progressive changes that positively affect peoples pockets and livelihoods.

seems like a lot to ask

the lack of pointing out labours positive outcomes, whilst massively and disproportionately amplifying anything bad they may do - is very specifically a press/media related issue.

the media elevate reform and downplay labour. it's like a fun game for their owners.

tbh feels like a massive distraction technique.

lets try to depose Starmer for the Epstein files, whilst staying suspiciously quiet about Farage's appearances in the Epstein Files.

even though Farage is still co-conspiring with the same people

PRECISELY!

the country voted for change, change of policy, change of priorities, not repeated change of leader.

labour needs to get its shit together and stop the infighting and shit stirring. heads down, on with the job, there's 15 years of Tory shite to fix.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no labour fanboy, nor starmer apologist

I just don't think replacing the party leader when *gestures widely* there's this much shit to deal with is going to help anything.

I dunno, there's quite a lot of us

Maybe a list of billionaires not in the Epstein files

Unfucking everything the Tories fucked would be a good start

Because I accused schumer and Jeffries at being shit? They're AIPAC funded.

Have you not noticed how Israel is tied into all the fascist bullshit going on?

If anything I'm trying to help you get rid of a roadblock to actual progress, not into fascism

Just want to add, I've only just seen mcsweeney is gone, which tbh is great news.

Good. Not sad to see him go

The 2 child benefit cap that has now been lifted?

I'm no starmer fanboy, but a leadership challenge is not going to help the country. It's not like we'd get a general election out of it and who would suggest replaces him?

Streeting? Burnham? Rayner? It's not going to radically change anything.

Trump is a world security risk, getting someone connected to his inner circle wasn't a bad idea, but with the darkness of that inner circle revealed, it's become a bad idea.

It's been dealt with.

Don't agree we need a leadership challenge over a bad decision

Tbh this makes you sound like a bot, I have no idea wtf you're on about.

I'm not a bot, just a Brit with an opinion

First time I've disagreed with you Zack, we don't need the distraction of a leadership challenge.

Let him get it on with it, it's not like these are normal times and it's not like he's done anything near as egregious as the Tories did.

Mandelson's head can roll, but excess culling is unnecessary

It's called opinion.

Interference is when I spend millions on targeted advertising

I don't have that kind of money to spare, I think you're safe