Laurel Bristow, MSc

Extremely clarifying to learn this man is the way he is because he married a woman who believes she can talk to spirits/that trauma victims attract more trauma. Someone investigate what in Floridas water causes wives to channel their ambitions through their puppet husbands.

The “kids are too medicated” crew and making more medications, without sufficient evidence, available for kids.

No downside to giving the vaccines separately (more shots, more doctors visits, less uptake).

Hep B is sexually transmitted so babies don’t need the vaccine (not true).

No harm in not taking Tylenol in pregnancy (fever can cause stillbirth)

Plenty of money in research (lol)

No Tylenol for kids either! (Not part of the research)

Stop giving all 80 vaccines in one visit (that doesn’t happen)

No Amish are autistic (untrue)

I will say I do like RFK jr being visibly uncomfortable behind Trump as he riffs absolutely insane health recommendations.

This is a very good lesson on the importance of a nationalized vaccine recommendation system

Meissner specifically asked if this vote means adults over 65 don’t need a script and the chair responded this vote was about insurance coverages. He might be mistaken but that’s where my confusion comes from.

With the (very confusing) ACIP meeting concluding, I’m reminding everyone we have this spreadsheet that I would LOVE help updating (as I assume more state will declare their own rules about COVID access). If your state needs updating and has a public statement please tell me!!!

It DOES seem like VFC coverage for Covid is protected. The chair explicitly said the vote was about keeping things available on VFC

The CDC scientists who did these meetings are saints so I’m confident they will write more coherent summaries of what’s going on.

Like, do those states have to make new rules to allow FDA eligible groups to get it without a rx? Will they keep that requirement? Do people outside the FDA groups who use “shared decision making” still need a script in those states? It’s very confusing!!!

I really don’t know. My interpretation of the situation is “if people get it, it’s covered by insurance, but we’re not making recommendations about if you should get it.” So I don’t know what this means for states that have been requiring an rx for the FDA approved groups because ACIP hadn’t met yet

My understanding is vote 4 was about keeping it on the schedule which equates to Public/private insurance coverage. They didn’t make any recommendations about which groups should get it. So I’m v confused about what happens now in states that tie vax access to ACIP rules.

So…are the recommendations in changed from last year? Do we have no recommendations? Is it every state for themselves?

Ok. Robert Malone being a voice of reason regarding what the ACIP legal authority is is…surprising.

Good god

Ok let’s say they approve this vote…in states that follow ACIP recs but don’t currently require a rx if you fall into the FDA approved groups, are those states going to require a rx now?

Step 1) Pounding the drum of "This vaccine isn't necessary"

Step 2) Vaccination rates drop

Step 3) "should we give this vaccine if so few people take it?"

Meissner saying vaccine uptake should factor into CDC recommendations is wild because a) many members of the ACIP are directly responsible for low vaccine uptake and b) many Americans don’t get the recommended amount of physical activity. Should we stop recommending physical activity?

Kind of feels like that’s the point

I could be misinterpreting it’s (maybe this was a review of what the WG did leading up to the ACIP meeting, but this is the slide that was presented. But if this was about what the WG did no language was presented so….

Absolutely.

From the opening g it sounded like their plan is to craft the language live.

Drinking every time they say “Gold Standard Science”

I guess in states that are creating their own vaccine recs who continue to allow MMRV this means kids covered under VFC will still have access so them being incompetent and unprepared for voting is actually good!

Soooo. MMRV is not longer available as a first dose but it’s still covered under VFC….but you can’t get it….but it’s covered?

Hey Dr Malone just quick FYI if you’re abstaining because you have a prior legal agreement to testify AGAINST MMRV vaccines that IS actually a conflict of interest.

Someone genuinely suggested the language be “MMR and varicella be preferred, otherwise shared decision making” which is what the recommendations currently ARE. These people are a joke.

Malone is a really wearing the hot dog suit when he’s talking about mistrust of vaccines.

An ACIP member using the phrase “drug addicts” is fucking heinous!!! My stomach hurts!!!