West is best

Who bombed the serbs until they stopped murdering people? Why were those sanctions imposed?

Actually it was a Serb putting a bottle up his own ass which broke up Yugoslavia. You don't seem particularly upset about the Bosnian genocide either, since you hate us for stopping it

Yeah the serbs for instance were managing quite the slaughter before we intervened!

And yet the rest of the world doesn't even manage free elections. Curious

Crysis was a really good game way ahead of it's time, not just graphically. It's just hard to outshine being one of *the* OG gaming memes, especially today when the last entry in the series was like 10 years ago.

Except this objectively isn't true, and even those that were democracies (the overwhelming majority weren't), were basic at best and nowhere near western freedoms. I know your ideology works on baseless assertions, but things are not the same just because you want them to be

I was gonna make a "zero..zero..zero.." joke but buddy didn't even make it to the second non-rep

Quite a lot tbh. Our global cultural influence just isn't as in-your-face as american pop culture or anime or whatever. Just for contemporary culture, we hold the largest gaming con in the world and you almost certainly have played Crysis, Far Cry, Gothic or a number of the games they inspired

I already explained the reasoning behind it and yet you have still not managed to name a place with freer elections and more rights

Your trolling is hard to tell apart from your arguments

Who came up with it?

Who is talking about a century ago?

So you're still not actually answering my question?

You think the fucking Ottoman empire had better human rights than the west in 2025? Somebody tell the Armenians

That does not answer the question. I thought they had more rights than we did?

When did Saddam Hussein legalize gay marriage?

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Where in the world do you have more rights and freer elections?

I enjoy human rights and free elections, yes

Take your pills

A gritty mostly hard sci-fi setting where humanity is ruled/guided/protected (it's complicated) by a relatively small group of formerly human moon sized chunks of brain matter

If the system had worked as intended, we would not be in the current situation. But the system can only work when stuff like neutrality is truly understood as an aspirational ideal rather than as an excuse for inaction.

Ultimately, Weberian Bureaucracy is an idealized analytical model. My contention is, admittedly, mostly an academic one, since it can't (and really, shouldn't) be fully implemented. But I do not think that aspiring to those ideals in the way Fukuyama is talking about is pointless either.

Newsom: "He doesn't play by a different set of rules. He doesn't believe in the rules. As a consequence, we need to disabuse ourselves of the way things have been done. It's not enough to just hold hands, have a candlelight vigil, talk about way the world should be...we have got to meet fire w/fire"

I don't think you're way off the mark either though, but the 'apolitical' the American media and bureaucracy aspire to is different than the one Weber was envisioning, and it's a little unfair to blame the former on the latter.

I just do not see how the norms underpinning Weberian bureaucracy would lead to this. If everyone simply followed the letter of the law, which is really the entire point of Weberian bureaucracy, then all of these guys would be in prison and there would be no issue.

Fascism is blatantly illegal so even an 'apolitical', in the Weberian sense, bureaucracy is is partisan against it. The issue in America is arguably the *lack* of apolitical proceduralism, as the GOP gets passes to step out of line time and time again.

Your political system clearly is not functional if it's teetering on the brink of fascism. How exactly is an explicitly partisan bureaucracy going to work when that isn't the case?

"So I actually like the deep state. I think that any functioning political system has to have a civil service that meets these basic Weberian requirements of being non-partisan, expert, professional, and the like."

- ‪‪‪@frankfukuyama.bsky.social‬ at #LibCon2025

He's clean now though