Matthew Blanchette

And the warlord—I mean, community leader—was the family member in charge of the lynching

Also the murderer killed someone because she couldn't understand a town that didn't have crime and ... Had to prove it to them or something.

And if the family chooses to spare the person who murdered their loved one, the murderer has to take their victim’s place in the community.

“This is your new teacher, kids, Mr. Johnson. He’s not really a teacher, but now he is because he murdered your old teacher.”

YES! Being literally enslaved for life because of a crime you did. Completely ethical and somehow much better than prison?

Well, and I don’t see how it improves society if my doctor is now the random person who brutally murdered my doctor.

I will say this: they are very good at reinventing the mafia.

I mean, they had repeating open, everyone gets a say, community meetings to get anything done and I frankly think that's a criminal waste of everyone's time.

Anarchist town that doesn’t have crime 😂

I’m old enough to remember in 2020 when anarchists took over a few blocks in Seattle and immediately reinvented police, police racial profiling, and police murdering unarmed black people and lying about it.

Did you ever read the spec fic from one anarchist about a world with no cops where their little back water village on a backwater planet just throws people in the sea and leaves it up to the aggrieved party if they should be spared or not?

I will take a police department any day, omg.

The people who are like “we could cut police budgets by more than half and just support food banks and hospitals” must be aghast to find out how many Liberals have had personal experience with people advocating lynchings

I did. Technically they were also serfdom or fiefdoms. It was very odd.

So one of the main examples is one of the short stories in “We Do This Til We Free Us” which has the dubious distinction of being pro-feudalism as well, taken literally. Now I have had other abolitionists tell me not to take it literally, but they are not telling that to fellow abolitionists

Because I have seen multiple viral posts on Tumblr, Twitter, Pinterest, Reddit, YouTube, and here (just in case you think it’s locational) advocate for reinventing, as a police alterative:

1. Lynching

2. Blood feuds

3. The mafia

4. Feudalism

5. Terrorist cels, civilian massacres included

The “We Do This Til We Free Us” story also includes lynching picnic, which, I am choosing not to dwell on.

Now I don’t understand why people are comfortable reinventing the mafia or terrorist organizations since that’s just law enforcement but worse

They’re going to sedate anyone who becomes a problem.

If it’s psychiatrists or therapists, same thing but now they’re also in danger.

I take Intelexual Media’s view of police abolition and I always include her video when explaining my position. Let me find it.

I figured because you respond to every Discourse like it’s a glacier drifting past you (Tumblr reference). It’s actually rather impressive.

Thanks for the link and the rundown.

I think you may know, or have guessed this, but I miss a lot of info. BS is my only regularly used outlet.

I occasionally keep up in bursts with Majority Report and Some More News, but even as I want to support a lot of media and folks on socials I suck at it.

Yeah, a lot of abolishment is more like… rewriting it all instead of deleting. (what I lean to, I mean)

It’s likely to be a decades long “Ship of Theseus” kinda solution.

I’m thinking that isn’t too far from where you are? I’ll watch vid.

That list is wild, tho.

Also, I’m wary of those who give simple answers for non-simple problems.

They don’t want the slow boring answer.

I want to know if those advocating violence as an answer to violence even know what they’re supporting anymore?

It’s so backwards, esp. when there’s history to pull from and learn.

You’ve got it right in one. I usually say I’m a reformist but if you look at my other replies, I’m more accurately supporting an entire overhaul. I just answer the “ship of Theseus” question differently.

While I understand police abolition as a thought experiment, the best case scenario is going to reinvent law enforcement. The worst case scenario is going to reinvent organized crime as law enforcement.

This is due to the “if all you have is a hammer” cognitive bias. If it’s EMTs,

YouTube video by Intelexual Media A Few Of My Unpopular Political Opinions

It’s the second segment of this video:

youtu.be/Xp12rcJGdM8?...

I’m afraid to ask, but there are people advocating lynchings?

I have run into some wild takes when traversing threads holding extreme antagonistic stubbornness.

At times I start to wonder if I’m talking to children (optimism?) because it’s a bit more depressing otherwise.

And seeing it connected to abolishment is annoying.

I know it’s a lot to ask of folks, but there are books about cop abolishment that help answer what alternatives are, and I really wish folks would read that

instead of walking backwards into becoming what they hate.

If *you* want to play Les Mis revolutionaries, go ahead, but most people don't understand that that revolution doesn't take place during the French Revolution and in the story, everyone but Marius dies, so you might wanna warn people about your suicidal notions if you're dragging them with you

also Les Mis is not about the French Revolution, its about the failed uprising of 1832 where student radical Republicans rose against the moderate liberal constitutional Monarchy.

it failed and they were all shot, and when a Republic came in 1848 it was a sheep's skin over a Napoleonic Empire

Nobody ever asks why the main guy in that Revolutionary painting is wearing a stovepipe hat, which was NOT a thing people were sporting on their heads in the 1790s!

No, Hugo was a 1848 Revolutionary, or at least road the wave into the National Assembly to become internationally famous as an advocate for radical causes.

then Napoleon III abolished the Republic and took total power and Hugo spent the next 20 years in exile, where he wrote Les Mis...

A LOT of Les Mis fans don't even know the monarchy was restored. It's not really mentioned in the musical BUT Waterloo is mentioned a few times and the novel SPECIFICALLY says Louis Phillipe is the king. It's ... fascinating to see who's not paying attention