phillyjohn

Okay, but when everyone on the planet refers to the nation of Israel, surely you can acknowledge that what they mean is the current political entity, right? Surely you don't think they are referring to an esoteric concept from thousands of years ago.

I responded elsewhere. Consider me educated, but also infinitely more convinced that the project of Zionism is a mess.

Just looked this up. Jesus Christ. That literally just feels like Israel getting to redefine the term nation to deflect against criticism. What the fuck, dude...

I'm going to assume that you are going to say that a state is the governing body while the nation is the people collectively, or something along those lines. I suppose that's technically correct, but in common parlance the words are used interchangeably.

You are pretending the terms Nation and State aren't completely interchangeable.

The person I'm responding to called him a Nazi. I agree with you.

I'm not saying I agree with his stance. But there is a level of purity testing on the left that ceases to be productive and just becomes silly. There are a lot of reasons for someone like Sanders to have a bad take on this issue that aren't, "because he's an ideological Nazi."

Idk man, I'm going off his official statement on his senate site, not what a cartoon squirrel says about it on bluesky.

He was literally the first US senator to call it a genocide and he called on the US to end all arms sales to Israel and increase humanitarian aid. What are you *talking* about?

I'm going to keep posting this for everyone but especially centre-leaning liberals.

If you're waiting for the system to correct itself or offer a chance to pull a "reset" lever.. Forget it. It's not happening.
The police aren't coming to cart Trump to jail.

You do it yourself or not at all.

Free Palestine. Calling Bernie Sanders a Nazi is a reach.

That's not a real argument. That's a goofy semantic quibble.

There will be absolutely no cringe Kamala stans in the replies here.

Taylor Swift is in her 30s my dude. So are the majority of her fans at this point...

One medium sized city in one state and they are slowly failing. They literally don't have the manpower to surround all the polls in all the districts they would need to in order to meaningfully impact a national election.

You can't be serious. This clown is your source?

Goda is, frankly, a really bad source. He has a clear bias in favor of Israel and has gone on record saying he doubts the death counts amid other problematic stances. In fact, he has argued the opposite of what you already claimed in this thread, that criticism of Isreal is explicitly antisemitic.

So where does the generally accepted stance: "Israel is perpetrating a genocide" land on that spectrum?

They don't even have a fraction of the manpower. This is just intimidation.

Is criticism of the nation of Israel antisemitism? If not, where do you draw the line? I think that the group Stancil is responding to here are far too extreme, but I think him calling their actions antisemitism is off base.

What you are arguing in this thread feels like it is muddying the waters, to me. You are advocating for a broad and nebulous definition of antisemitism.

Genuinely fire examples, lol. A bunch of crybullies.

Do you ever look inside of yourself and wonder why criticism of literally any other government's actions don't get lumped into a term for a specific sort of xenophobia, but when it's the Israeli government, criticism is automatically antisemitism?

Analilia Mejia has declared VICTORY in the #NJ11 special primary election!

Not generating propaganda with Ai.

Is that Jasmine "We need immigrants because we're done picking cotton" Crockett?

When I'm in a servile devotion to idpol conest and my opponents are liberals on bluesky. Unbelievable bad take...

Is that the fucking POPE?