Is anyone on this thread going to remember that the stated ambition of Iran is the annihilation of Israel? Has anyone seen 25 years of Israel run proxies killing Iranians on their borders? No that’s odd.

Not saying you support the previous governments more that anything these guys have done so far negative is fairly trivial in comparison

I suppose my point is your suggested reasoning against the backdrop of the last 14 years puts in stark reflection how bad it’s been vs effectively a new government seemingly admirably trying to tackle enormous issues

Fair enough - I think we have to take everything in context. I don’t disagree on train drivers necessarily. Imagine you take over a big business and most of the staff are demoralised and every single department has been run incredibly poorly. You have to fix easy stuff immediately

And this to also remind you in relation to the last 14 years. The conservatives governments managed a disastrous collapse in living, health, disposable income, pension, home owning, public discourse, democratic standards KPIS on almost every metric.

Mates implies individual cronyism. It’s the dog whistle of right wing press. Properly salarying a demoralised workface consistently paid under inflation wages in order to kickstart a dying economy, health system and rail network seems fair enough.

Why ‘your mates’ - which ones? Doctors? Rail workers? Sue Gray? If so that is an unbelievably weak arguement

Nightmare!

Duffman can’t lose (adjusted quote for the simpsons crew)

These people haven’t even got the faintest idea about change, politics or policy. The notion they or any dissenting mps could bring together a coalition to dethrone starmer is laughable and deeply naive. The thought that starmer could create in isolation a socialist paradise in 6 months is moronic

Yeh if Ugbo goes on a run we’ll be flying. My main concern is windass and bannan, if either don’t play or play well then we struggle. Ones injured a lot and the other is 35.

What are your thoughts on the Jan window? Striker? Another centre back? More creativity in midfield?

I got my first porn bot follower today as well.